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In the World, But Not of It [16 Aug 2005|11:46am]


I didn't put up a struggle and I fell head long into sin.  And when the opportunity came, I saw a way to move out of that world. 

But God held me there and said, "Stay."

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I believe that with your prayer,  God's hands will move on the Co-Ops.  That God will start something new here and change us from the inside out.  I need your help though. 

I'm asking for prayer pledges.

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Thank you.


James 1:5-8

 5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. 6But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; 8he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.

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sister in christ [09 Aug 2005|01:18am]

[ mood | ecstatic ]

Praise God! my sister just accepted christ! she is now saved and now my sister is christ as well as blood!!!

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prayer requests [27 Jul 2005|12:49am]

hey...um... i have a few things that i'm havin' a really hard time with... but i've gotta go really soon so i'll make this brife, i can add more detail later if you want me to. I'm a cutter, and i've been having really bad urges, so pray that i'll stay strong in not cutting. My dad had a break down is in the hospital on suicide watch for a few days. my sister isn't a christain and really needs God, please pray that she will be saved. I'm not living at home right now, so just pray that God's will be done in this situation...but hopefuly that His will will be for me to stay away from the house. thanks so much! if any verses come to mind or anything, please comment. thanks.

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New Community-- Prayer For India! [05 Jul 2005|01:04pm]


Greetings one and all,

This community is being established for those who desire to pray for India, have a heart for India, who are Indian (living anywhere), are missionaries in India, or just want to check out what God is doing in that large region. The purpose of this community will be cultural exchange between regions of India (anything from Divali to Desi food recipes to religious/cultural study to Bollywood), understanding, keeping up with news and needs of India, and correspondences between all affiliated with India in some way.

I look forwards to seeing what God will accomplish as we all gather together with one purpose.
--- all welcome to join ---

++will be cross-posted++
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help [15 Feb 2005|12:14am]

i just started this group on myspace called status.
I'd really appreciate it if anyone could help get more people in it and start posting questions and thoughts, prayers, new albums, tours, etc. basically try to get the word out. Its an amazing movement I truly believe in, its focused on our generation and our relationship to god.They have a status in a lot of major cities, they're all about innovative teaching, passionate worship, and real connections.

please check it out
god bless
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Prayer Request for Tonight at 9pm [09 Jan 2004|11:08am]


I am a member of the seekinghisface community and tonight is the big election night for a new head leader. God has given us a very dynamic leadership staff and an annointed ministry. Day to day we face spiritual attacks on all sides, but that does not throw off the plans of God. Hallelujah!

This is to be the first night that almost all the leadership have met together. Tonight at 9pm we seek more than God's chosen for leadership, we seek the Spirit's pouring upon our ministry. We seek a unified one accord Body of Leaders. We seek God's will.

I am praying for God to act upon our ministry like He did in Acts 2.

The Fellowship of the Believers

42They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

We need prayer for spiritual protection by the Blood of Jesus, the Spirit's annointing power, and for discernment. Anything God places on your heart to pray for, please do. You will be serving more than just our leadership Body and the Lord. You'll be serving the entire Body of Seeking His Face Ministries and everyone they interact with.

If you are led, fast on our behalf.

God Bless you and may you seek his face daily.

Love in Christ,
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LJ COMMUNITY INVITE... Seeking His Face [15 Oct 2003|06:39pm]


I have created this community primarily for those who wish to seek God with all their heart, mind, and soul together in one accord. The exact aim of this community varies with the vast array of unique children of God that will be brought here. Prayer requests shared. Godly insight passed. A poem of exhortation lifted up-- devoid of pride and selfishness.

We come here to jointly commit to giving God our all and decide to strive to do so together by whatever means He calls us to.

Thinking outside the box of the temporal led by the direction of He who knows the eternal.
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Should Christians Drink? [27 Jan 2003|04:51am]

[ mood | tired ]

This Is A Question That Comes Up A Lot. I Once Talked With A Pastor Who Was Teaching An Intense Biblical Study Class At A Christian College. Me And Some Friends Asked Him About Drinking. "It's Alright To Drink In Moderation Isn't It?". "Drink But Don't Get Drunk". He Started Spouting Out All Of These Greek And Hebrew Words And Explaining The Measurments Of Alcohol And All Of This Stuff That Went Over My Head. Basically He Said No It's Not OK. I Went Home And Had A Beer. Now, Years Later, I've Been So Bothered By Christians Drinking That I Wish I Could Remember What He Said. Luckily He Made That The Topic For One Of His Classes After That. Luckily My Friend Took That Class And Still Has His Notes On The Subject. Luckily My Friend Is Still Awake And Sent Them To Me. So Here It Is.

There are 637 references to wine, drink and drinking in the King James Version of the Bible. Most people think in today’s terms, believing that when wine is mentioned it refers to alcoholic wine. Actually, that is not necessarily true. Thirteen different words are translated "wine" in the King James Version of the Bible. The word wine has a wide range of meaning in the Bible, covering everything from grape juice, to concentrated grape syrup to alcoholic wine. To understand what the Bible has to say about drinking, we need to look at several of these words.


"yayin" -- It is a general term for grape beverages and includes all classes of wine, non-alcoholic or alcoholic; unfermented, in the process of fermentation and fermented. (Proverbs 31:4) The context will show whether it is alcoholic wine or not. Yayin, when used properly was always diluted with water.

"shekar" -- It is the word for strong drink, unmixed wine. The 1901 edition of THE JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA says, "Yakin, wine, is to be distinguished from Shekar, or strong drink. The former is diluted with water; the later is undiluted." Shekar was not diluted with water." (see Numbers 28:7)

"Tirosh" -- This word refers to fresh grape juice. It is referred to often as new wine or sweet wine. (see Proverbs 3:10; Deuteronomy 7:13)


"oinos" is the counterpart to the Old Testament word yayin. It is a general term for grape beverages and includes all classes of wine, non-alcoholic or alcoholic; fermented or unfermented. The context has to be used to determine whether the drink was intoxicating or not. (Luke 10:34; Ephesians 5:18). Oinos, when used properly was always diluted with water.

"sikera" is the counterpart to the Old Testament word shekar. It is the word for strong drink, unmixed wine. (Luke 1:15)

"gleukos" is the counterpart to the Old Testament word tirosh. Dr. Paul Dixon says "It refers to fresh wine, a new wine" or freshly squeezed grape juice.

Now, why believers should abstain from drinking...

In the April 24, 1965 issue of Christianity Today, the article, on page 25 says, "People must be informed that the use of alcohol is not unlike Russian roulette: every tenth person becomes automatically hooked. the only solution is total abstinence." These statistics are supported by the American Medical Association.


Isaiah 5:11-- "Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!"

Proverbs 23:20-- "Be not among winebibbers;" The word means to drink so much that you become tipsy or drunk.

Romans 13:13 -- "Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting (drunken partying) and drunkenness (general drunken-ness)..."

Galatians 5:19a & 21 -- "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these...drunkenness..."

Ephesians 5:18 -- "And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;"


I Corinthians 6:9-11 (key verse 10) - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: …drunkards…, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

You can’t get around it, and in fact, all godly men agree that the Bible condemns drunkenness. Drunkenness is a serious matter

Proverbs 20:1 "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."

NOTE again, Isaiah 5:11 -- "Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!"

Proverbs 23:29-31 -- "Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (30) They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.(a mixture of wine and spices) (31) Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright."


Distillation was not discovered until about 1500 A.D. Strong drink and unmixed wine in Bible times was from 3% to 11% alcohol. Dr. John MacArthur says "...since anybody in biblical times who drank unmixed wine (9-11% alcohol) was definitely considered a barbarian, then we don’t even need to discuss whether a Christian should drink hard liquor--that is apparent!"


Since wine has 9 to 11% alcohol and one brand 20% alcohol, you should not drink that. Brandy contains 15 to 20% alcohol, so that’s out! Hard liquor has 40 to 50% alcohol (80 to 100 proof), and that is obviously excluded!

Someone will say, "since beer is only 4% alcohol, IT’S OK FOR A BELIEVER TO DRINK BEER, RIGHT?" The answer is NO! Here’s why...

Remember the Hebrew word "yayin" and the Greek word "oinos" that we looked at earlier? These were the companion words for wine whether fermented or unfermented. In fact, whether fermented or not, it was MIXED WITH WATER.

Norman Geisler, former Dean of Liberty Center for Christian Scholarship, Liberty University, has written: "Many wine drinking Christians today mistakenly assume that what the New Testament meant by wine is identical to wine used today. This, however, is false. In fact, today’s wine is by Biblical definition strong drink, and hence forbidden by the Bible. What the Bible frequently meant by wine was basically purified water," purified by adding some alcoholic wine. The Holman Bible dictionary says, wine was also used as a medicine and disinfectant.

Geisler goes on to say, "Therefore, Christians ought not to drink wine, beer, or other alcoholic beverages for they are actually strong drink forbidden in Scripture. Even ancient pagans did not drink what some Christians drink today."

All alcoholic beverages used in our culture fall under the biblical classification of STRONG DRINK and are therefore forbidden. The least ratio of water to wine mixture used in Bible times was 3 parts water to 1 wine. That produced a sub-alcoholic drink that was 2.5% to 2.75% alcohol. Normally, the ratio was even higher, up to 20 to 1. Their is NO BIBLICAL SUPPORT FOR CHRISTIANS DRINKING THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES OF OUR DAY! What early believers drank was sub-alcoholic by today’s standards. Pastors and deacons were cautioned to steer around even the sub-alcoholic stuff (I Timothy 3:3 & 8).

The right choice is to abstain! What is your choice?

Romans 14:21 says "It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to "to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak."

Innumerable Christians claim their "Christian Liberty" when it comes to social drinking. In order to do that, they must turn their backs on this passage of Scripture. "Sipping Saints" have given multitudes of people an excuse to drink. More than once, I have heard a believer say "there is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation. Pastor so and so even says it is OK."

The problem is, drinking often sets off a chain reaction of influences that are like tipping over the first domino. Drinking causes some to stumble, others to be offended, and many to be weakened. Studies support my statement.

According to a survey done by the Daily Journal newspaper, October 26, 1988, one of the top five reasons teenagers drink is because their parents drink. This has proven true time and time again.

Let me take it one step further. Parents, you must remember that whatever you do in moderation your child will likely do in excess.

The Bible clearly defines drinking as an activity that is to be foregone because it causes others to stumble and makes them weak (fall into sin).

The first effect of alcohol on the brain is to dull the capacity for self-criticism and the sense of caution. A lessening of care and anxiety follows this. The checks on irresponsibility and unreasonable behavior are also curtailed. Actions follow the impulses, which is dangerous. Reaction time become slower; coordination is disturbed; drowsiness follows.

Proverbs 23:29-33 gives clear testimony to the above description of alcohol on the brain. "Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. 31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. 32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. 33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things."

"The most drastic and noticed effect of alcohol is the brain. It depresses brain centers, progressively produces uncoordination, confusion, disorientation, stupor, anesthesia, coma, death. Alcohol kills brain cells, and brain damage is permanent" (From-Office of Highway Safety, Madison, WI)

There is a further reason you should not drink...

I Corinthians 6:12 tells us that we are not to "be brought under the power" or to be controlled by anything. The only exception is the Holy Spirit. (Ephesians 5:18)

Alcohol is clearly a powerful substance (Proverbs 23:35). Because alcohol is addictive, we should choose not to drink alcoholic beverages.

The final reason we will consider for not drinking alcoholic beverages is...

"The prophets, the kings, the Nazarites, the leaders -- those who were special in the plan of God were total abstainers" says Dr. Paul Dixon, and he is correct. Kings and public officials were not to drink (Proverbs 31:4-5). Further Dr. Dixon says "the priests of the Old Testament were to abstain totally." The Aaronic priests were not to drink because they ministered in the tabernacle before the Lord (Leviticus 10:9)

The application: Believers are a "royal" or kingly priesthood (I Peter 2:9). We are the temple of God (I Peter 2:5). We are God’s special children and should choose total abstinence.

Drinking, even social drinking, cannot be legitimately supported by the Bible. Every drink that is available today, even beer, falls into the category of unmixed or strong drink. Clearly, Christians should not drink alcoholic beverages. Drinking socially is a worldly activity and in light of the fact that believers are neither to be conformed to the world (Romans 12:2) nor love the world(I John 2:15) our choice should be clear. We ARE to be SEPARATE FROM the world (II Corinthians 6:17) and LIGHT TO the world (Ephesians 5:8; Phillipians 2:15). Perhaps social drinking has enhanced the acceptability of Christians in society, but it has not advanced the cause of Christ, and it does not glorify God! Social drinking is simply a means which the devil uses to blunt our testimony for Christ and squeeze us into his mold.

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It Dies Today [13 Jul 2002|01:08pm]

[ mood | blah ]

Welcome To Itdiestoday. I'm Hoping That People Will Join And Find A Place That They Can Come And Just Be Real. To Say "I've Been Messing Up Bad, But It Dies Today". I Hope That We Can Declare That Day After Day Because The Word Says "I Die Every Day". If We Want To Be Commited To God We Need To Die To Our Flesh Every Day. I Struggle. I Struggle Bad. I'm Not A Good Guy And Definately Not Deserving Of God's Love But He Gives It To Me Anyway. That's Because His Love Has No Conditions. So Then I Have To Ask Myself Why Do I Put Conditions On God? It's Like God Has To Either Make Things Really Great For Me To Serve Him Or Really Bad For Me To Serve Him. When Things Are Great I Feel So Blessed And Just Want To Be On Fire. When Things Are Bad I Feel I Have Nowhere Else To Turn. What I'm Struggling With Is Serving Him When Things Are Just O.K. That's When He Wants Me To Serve Him The Most. Not During The Extremes. Just When I Am Who I Am And Things Aren't Great But They Could Be Much Worse. Can Anyone Relate?

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